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Matt Bianca's avatar

So true.

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Andrew Perlot's avatar

I suspect you disagree, but I feel like these differences in stance are a matter of degree and also perhaps a matter of descriptions of mental actions.

There is, of course, a difference between Pyrrhonism and "Socratic Skepticism" but I'm not sure if you're arguing for the fullest version of the former here.

Note all the caveats and links I included in my article going over the extreme caution we need to employ when judging so that we don't do a disservice, and the default assumption that we may be wrong.

You rightly to conclude that there is a list of things we should attempt to judge. I just think that list is bit longer, and people can get into real trouble when they suspend judgement so far as to not guide their own lives with intention.

The Mental action part: you're familiar with "Phantasia".

Buddhism has similar descriptions of judgments/thoughts arising.

Well what do you do with when they pop up?

Meditators attempt to withdraw their attention away from them. And this does work for some things, but the kind of dogmatic, reflexive judgments we make by default don't go away when we leave them alone. At least mine don't.

Generally, mulling them over and judging the judgment is what I need to do to deflate them and "change my mind." even if it's just to achieve nonjudgement about the judgement!

Years of meditations and withdrawing attention never succeeded in this, and I'm a worse person, more miserable, and less focused when I don't judge thoughtfully.

Anyway, I think dialing in the right amount of judgment and suspension of judgment to be one of the works of a lifetime, and I appreciate your pushback.

Skepticism is a tool I greatly appreciate, it's just not the only tool I've found valuable.

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