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skaladom's avatar

I think Buddhism does have an ethical view to offer, along the lines of "be compassionate and mind the interdependence of things". It sure has shaped my ethical thinking quite a lot, along with other influences. True to its source, it's kind of a middle way, neither particularly master nor slave.

But maybe it's true that the Western Buddhist movement wasn't looking for that. It seems to have split halfway between those who went for the world-renouncing message of liberation through silent meditation, and the Engaged Buddhists who mostly used Buddhism to cover for their pre-existing social commitments.

In any case, I agree with the part about secularization. I frequented a Buddhist sangha in Europe for many years, and the median age was steadily growing.

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Bryan Kam's avatar

Nietzsche greatly disliked the Stoic view of Nature (BGE §9) but he approved of Stoic hardness and self-mastery. "Let us remain _hard_, we last Stoics!" (BGE §227). I personally would have guessed that he wouldn't like Stoicism because of a possible tendency toward life-denial (the asceticism they watered down from the Cynics). I'd guess that his ideal of master-morality is largely Homeric? But it's true that Stoicism lacks some of the ressentiment of the moralities that get the most virulent attacks from Nietzsche.

It's also worth saying that Nietzsche's knowledge of Buddhism was quite limited compared to Schopenhauer's, who studied Buddhism more deeply. When I read Nietzsche's attacks on Buddhism, I actually think he's attacking his view of Buddhism which is tinged with pessimism from Schopenhauer. Also, Schopenhauer thought the Cynics were hardcore and didn't much like the Stoics. IIRC he said Cynics : Stoics were like Franciscans : Dominicans, and Dominicans was not a compliment for him.

For Schopenhauer and Buddhism: https://archive.org/details/BhikkhujvakoSchopenhauerAndBuddhismWhatBuddhaSaid/page/n3/mode/2up?q=sanskrit

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